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Carrim / Mogotsi / Matlala loan chain + ANC event payments

Carrim loaned R10M to Matlala (Mogotsi 'played' him into it per Madlanga testimony). Mogotsi requested payments from Matlala for ANC delegate packages, flights, regions membership. R40M+ Carrim payments to businessman linked to Tembisa.

13 events1 contradictionsR10,000,000
People in this scheme
Brown Mogotsi23Suliman Carim9Mr Vusimuzi 'Cat' Matlala5Adv Chaskalson SC2Major General Feroz Khan1Lt Gen Samuel Dumisani Khumalo1Minister of Police Senzo Mchunu1
Timeline of events
September 2023
The Brown Mogotsi Foundation, with Mogotsi deposing affidavits, interdicted a tender process by the North West Health Department. Funding for the legal action came from Carrim and Kareem.
action taken: when your foundation interdicted the North West Health Department around a tender?
Day 36 · Adv Chaskalson SC ·
role in case: did you depose to all of the affidavits in this case as the named member of the foundation?
Day 36 · Adv Chaskalson SC ·
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12 December 2023
Suleiman Carrim transferred R35 million to Vusimuzi Matlala on 12 December 2023. Carrim later said he believed this was in advance of a preservation order.
belief: there being no basis for him to believe that the statement would not be kept confidential
Day 72 · Chairperson ·
belief: I saw it now in my books
Day 73 · Mr Carrim ·
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February 2024
Suleiman Carrim made initial payments totalling millions of rand to Morgan Maumela, facilitated by Vusimuzi Matlala, as part of the Medicare 24 contract arrangement in the lead-up to the SAPS award.
received payment: in Feb you received your first payment
Day 73 · Mr Carrim ·
action taken: Around Feb, March of 2024, Counsel
Day 73 · Mr Carrim ·
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21 March 2024
Matlala arranged delivery of impalas from a Rudy Farm manager on 21 March 2024, with payment and address details exchanged via WhatsApp — illustrating the informal gift and livestock economy around the network.
message content: Rudy Farm Manager then says: "Thank you, sir, I got it, thank you very much, thanks sir, we will do that."
Day 52 · Adv Chaskalson SC ·
message content: Rudy Farm Manager responds: "Thanks sir, hi there sir, okay, everything has been arranged, he will catch the Impalas on Sunday and transport it Monday to that location. Is it good?"
Day 52 · Adv Chaskalson SC ·
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30 September 2024
Brown Mogotsi sent his first WhatsApp message to Lt-Gen Mkhwanazi on 30 September 2024, introducing himself and claiming to have information about a plot to discredit Mkhwanazi.
text: the first wording he says: “My General Brown Mogotsi from North West.”
Day 2 · Lt Gen Mkhwanazi ·
sender: Brown Mogotsi from North West
Day 3 · Lt Gen Mkhwanazi ·
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December 2024
Mogotsi participated in a covert section 252(A) recording operation to capture conversations about a plot to remove General Khan from his position, involving senior officers. The operation was authorised.
action sequence: I heard him when he was here, if you remember Commissioners, he said after he has accepted to preside over General Khan's disciplinary hearing, I started talking to him. It is true. That was the perio
Day 35 · Brown Mogotsi ·
obtained in presence of: it was done in my presence, by my handler, because it was a verbal authority.
Day 35 · Brown Mogotsi ·
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6 December 2024
Vusimuzi Matlala alleged that he and his wife were assaulted on 6 December 2024. Mogotsi was aware of the allegations.
awareness of: I was aware that Mr Kareem was an investor in the contract or tender awarded to Matlala by the South African Police Service
Day 35 · Brown Mogotsi ·
awareness of: Yes, I did. And even if those people could have been arrested, there was no need for me to tell the Minister.
Day 37 · Brown Mogotsi ·
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23 December 2024
Mogotsi sent a WhatsApp message to Minister Mchunu on 23 December 2024 stating "We got a breakthrough", referring to progress in the effort to arrest Lt-Gen Mkhwanazi.
sent message content: you sent the Minister a message saying: 'We got a breakthrough.'
Day 37 · Adv Chaskalson SC ·
called: You, in fact, called Cat Matlala. You called him at 10:34:40
Day 37 · Adv Chaskalson SC ·
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2 January 2025
Brown Mogotsi forwarded the Minister's 31 December 2024 disbandment letter for the PKTT to Vusimuzi Matlala on 2 January 2025, sharing classified information about the PKTT with a civilian contractor.
possession of letter: the 2 n d Brown Mogotsi has the letter
Day 3 · Lt Gen Mkhwanazi ·
sent letter to: he sends this letter to Cat Matlala
Day 3 · Lt Gen Mkhwanazi ·
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March 2025
By early March 2025, Matlala became aware that the SAPS Medicare 24 contract was heading for cancellation, prompting communication with Carrim and Mogotsi. The formal cancellation followed on 13 May 2025.
awareness of: Brown already knew
Day 73 · Mr Carrim ·
awareness of: it seems like Mr Matlala then picked up that this message he already received from Mr Mogotsi in March
Day 73 · Mr Carrim ·
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3 March 2025
Suleiman Carrim underwent an eye operation on 3 March 2025, later citing it as grounds for medical inability to attend Commission hearings.
occurred on: he has been to an eye operation on the 3rd of March
Day 73 · Mr Khumalo (Nkosana Khumalo) ·
occurred on: he has to go for a second operation which is scheduled for tomorrow, the 10th of March
Day 73 · Mr Khumalo (Nkosana Khumalo) ·
2025-09-10 – 2025-09-12
Mogotsi travelled to Kenya on 10–12 September 2025 to investigate allegations that Lt-Gen Mkhwanazi was a CIA operative, meeting contacts and reporting back.
departure date: I left to Kenya on the 10th of September 2025.
Day 35 · Brown Mogotsi ·
return date: I returned back from Kenya on the 12th of September 2025.
Day 35 · Brown Mogotsi ·
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9 March 2026
Brown Mogotsi filed an application for the recusal of Chief Evidence Leader Advocate Chaskalson on 9 March 2026, alleging improper pressure was placed on him to implicate Carrim. The application was heard and denied.
subject matter: We are meant to be dealing on the application of Mr Mogotsi for the recusal of an Evidence Leader
Day 109 · Advocate Hassim SC ·
applicant: application that is being brought by Mr Oupa Brown Mogotsi
Day 109 · Advocate Mohomane ·
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Contradictions linked to this scheme
◎ Likely — AI-assisted, cited
Brown Mogotsi — (cross-phrasing)
A denies being a member/director; B asserts deposing affidavits as named member of same foundation—mutually exclusive on membership.