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RpaymentFebruary 2024E000099

Carrim makes payments to Maumela via Matlala

Suleiman Carrim made initial payments totalling millions of rand to Morgan Maumela, facilitated by Vusimuzi Matlala, as part of the Medicare 24 contract arrangement in the lead-up to the SAPS award.

Described by 2 witnesses
Suliman Carimday 73, day 74Mr Vusimuzi 'Cat' Matlaladay 165
Each of these people gave first-hand evidence about this event. Several accounts of the same event is a property of the record — it is not verification, and witnesses can be mistaken together.
12 claims from testimony
"in Feb you received your first payment"
received paymentSuliman CarimMr CarrimCL0074443
"Around Feb, March of 2024, Counsel"
action takenSuliman CarimMr CarrimCL0074912
"In March."
stated factSuliman CarimMr CarrimCL0074976
"Yes."
stated factSuliman CarimMr CarrimCL0074977
"I had a meeting with my lawyers, and we then agreed that we needed to start the legal process of receiving my monies"
action takenSuliman CarimMr CarrimCL0075727
"which required you to speak of your involvement in the loan or funding agreement into with Mr Suleiman Carrim"
requiredRegulation 10(6) NoticeAdv Sello SCCL0192272
"also with Suleiman Carrim"
investigated withMr Vusimuzi 'Cat' MatlalaVusimuzi Cat MatlalaCL0192435
"To avoid responding to the question relating to Mr Maumela and Mr Cassim"
stated intentionMr Vusimuzi 'Cat' MatlalaAdv Sello SCCL0193210
"as the Regulation 10.6 notice required of you, to speak of your relationship with Mr Maumela on the one hand, Mr Carrim on the other hand"
requirementRegulation 10(6) NoticeAdv Sello SCCL0193219
"questions that come from or relating to the 10.6 should be answered about your relationship with Mr Maumela and Mr Carrim"
responsibilityMr Vusimuzi 'Cat' MatlalaAdv Baloyi SCCL0193224
"you were required to explain your history and/or relationship, direct or indirect, with certain persons, and they included Mr Maumela and Mr Carrim"
required to explain relationship withMr Vusimuzi 'Cat' MatlalaAdv Sello SCCL0193251
"as we did with General Sibiya, you were required to explain your history and/or relationship, direct or indirect, with certain persons, and they included Mr Maumela and Mr Carrim"
required to explain relationship withMr. Shadrack SibiyaAdv Sello SCCL0193252